@triktrek
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Ouch, that must hurt for Kate Mulgrew and the team.

Why would Paramount remove the existing episodes from streaming service though? They have everything else Trek.

@triktrek Same reason HBO removed Westworld… Saving on residuals. All about that bottom line, amirite? 🙄

Ah so it is just about residuals, I was just speculating on another comment that that might be the reason.

This fucking sociopathic cutthroat capitalism where literally nothing matters except squeezing more money out of everyone is getting real damn old

@dan
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If there’s really low viewership, it can cost more to keep it on the platform, as they still have to pay some royalties and stuff for it being there.

Same reason that Disney is pulling lots of shows from Disney+ and Hulu right now.

It sucks a lot for those of us who really like it.

@z500
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Fucking shifting business fiefdoms. This is why I don’t trust streaming at all.

@Newby
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Not enjoying this new trend of removing content. Hopefully will be available to purchase.

anyone that torrented it still has a copy 😜

Canceling it is one thing. Pulling the show down from the service is absolutely abhorrent behavior.

@SSH_2023
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Did it end on a cliffhanger and this means the ending is unresolved?

@CNash85
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Sort of - the mystery of what happened to Chakotay is unresolved, but the crew got a more-or-less happy ending. From how it’s being reported, season 2 is all but complete and they just need to find a new network or service to show it - I’d wager Prime Video might be a possible home for it as they’ve historically had distibution rights for the various other modern Trek shows internationally.

This gives some hope at least. This show is better than it had any right to be and deserves a proper ending.

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The removal from the service thing is the most absurd part of these announcements, that was the benefit of VOD, that we could access what we wanted.

Shows have gotten cancelled when they are popular and on a cliff-hanger throughout the last 60 years, but the removal thing is new and a massive decline from the accessibility improvements that were made over the last 15 years.

Fortunately for me, my personal server doesn’t have this issue.

It also makes it impossible for a show to get later word of mouth bumps. Nobody sees it, new users don’t even know it exists, and so it has no metrics and no future whatsoever.

Briongloid
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That’s how Star Trek succeeded after The Original Series, but now there is no physical media comparable to streaming.

You would think that the content would still be licensed by another streamer like Tubi etc, but then they have to factor their property only being available on a competitor.

It’s never been a better time to selfhost.

Don’t streaming platforms remove canceled shows so they don’t have to pay residuals to actors (or whoever is contractually getting them)? I’ve understood that streaming residuals are pretty shit to begin with

Yep. It’s corporate greed, plain and simple, and it’s disgusting.

@kargarocP4
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code for “Prodigy is about to become super hot on pirate sites”

@varda
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I’m bummed. I found the first few episodes of Prodigy rocky but it wound up being a solid first season in a franchise where a rocky first season is the norm.

I don’t have kids but if I ever did I could see myself wanting to watch Prodigy with them. I hope another studio picks it back up.

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Wow, this sucks. I didn’t get around to finishing season one yet but really enjoyed what I have seen so far. It’s refreshing to see Star Trek deviate and try something new, and I felt like Prodigy was really hitting the mark there.

I hope season two finds a home quickly and we’re not stuck waiting forever.

The lack of completions were one of the things that hurt the show.

TheLazurus
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Boooo! I quite enjoyed Prodigy, and I really hope it finds a new home.

Madison_rogue
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They don’t have to pay residuals if they pull the content. This is one of the main issues that caused the current writer’s strike.

GeekFTW
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And shit like this is why I’m a data hoarder lol

The back half of Prodigy season one hasn’t even been released to DVD, just the first 10 episodes.

CIWS-30
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Yep. I used to think that I didn’t need to download and back up stuff because “I just need to pop on over to Youtube or something and it’ll be there!” only to find out the hard way that people delist and take down stuff from places all the time, including major corporations.

I wish I’d downloaded and backed up some of my favorite stuff back in the day. Whether it’s videos, music, games… it’s surprising how much crap gets taken down. I never thought that people who insisted on having physical copies were weird (unlike some others) but now I realize even more nowadays that they were right. Especially if they use those physical copies to make their own digital backups.

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This is incredibly disappointing. I look just as much forward to seeing this on Thursdays as I do other Treks. What a loss.

@Navi
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Oh man that really sucks. I really enjoyed prodigy, it was doing something different (but good different!).

Had been looking forward to watching it with my son when he was sold enough… I really hope they find a new home so we get more than just one season.

Blah. I hate this.

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I’m very surprised. I thought Prodigy had a strong following. What a strange situation, quickly pulling season one. But I don’t understand the ins and outs of streaming contracts.

Possibly that Paramount+ simply doesn’t have the kids’ content to support viewership for a single show. Sure, it pulls in Trek fans, but probably isn’t grabbing the 4-12 demographic it’s aimed at or whatever.

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Confirmed by Deadline, with some added details:

The new season will complete post-production, and the studio will be looking for a new home for Star Trek: Prodigy as season one comes off the service shortly.

The company said that “continues to be invested in growing the Star Trek franchise” with series including Star Trek: Starfleet Academy, movie event Star Trek: Section 31, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, which returned for its second season June 15 and has been renewed for a third season, animated series Star Trek: Lower Decks, which will return for its fourth season later this year and has also been renewed for a fifth season, the upcoming final season of Star Trek: Discovery as well as Star Trek: Picard.

Update from series writer Aaron J. Waltke:

Obviously, there is not much I can say. Everyone on the cast and crew loves #StarTrekProdigy deeply.

I have noticed some misleading headlines, so all I can do is point to this particular part of the press release.

We are completing season two on schedule and seeking a new home!

Variety’s report contains this:

According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, although the show had aired on Nickelodeon in addition to Paramount+, it will not be returning to Nickelodeon either. Those on the show will complete post-production on Season 2 and then CBS Studios will be free to shop it to other outlets.

Nmyownworld
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For goodness sake. Paramount+ just gained “The spot for all Star Trek films and series” earlier this month. Now, they have to put an asterisk on that statement, “*except Prodigy.”

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@Nmyownworld @ValueSubtracted What I struggle to understand is how they don’t immediately see how this will only undermine subscriber confidence

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It’s the hot new trend - Warner and Disney have each done the same thing.

I mean, kind of, Disney hasn’t burnt any Marvel if Stat Wars shows.

Disney did pull a few things Marvel, but they weren’t prime MCU. They were all documentaries, time-sensitive hype pieces, or shows of dubious canonicity to the MCU.

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They’ve pulled a lot of other stuff, including Marvel’s Runaways, which you may or may not count as a “Marvel show”.

Point taken, but I don’t feel like a long dead show that was dropped from canon almost as soon as it aired is the equivalent of a currently in production canon Trek show.

So depressing.

Especially when Paramount+ has very little in the animated originals category.

More, Paramount has been trying to cover all of the demographics with their consolidated streamer. Compared to most of the others, excepting Disney, they have a decent amount of kids’ content and viewership. So, how shortsighted do they have to be to cut off their one major franchise offering for that demographic?

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